Danish Cartoons, Double-Standards and Daniel Pipes
Well surprise, surprise, surprise. Daniel Pipes, the world's most prominent anti-Muslim hate-monger, has finally piped up and posted an article giving his point-of-view on the on-going Danish cartoon saga. He's obviously trying to capitalize on the current cartoon crisis in order to put forward his xenophobic agenda, which a close analysis of his Cartoons and Islamic Imperialism article makes rather clear. Based on the fact that he's the respected spokesman for so many Islamophobes around the world, you'd think he'd be able to articulate a decent defense for his paranoid positions. Please try to keep this in mind when you see how easy it is to un-spin his half-baked assertions—and it is always easy when the facts are on your side. So without further adieu, here's what Daniel Pipes, glaring hypocrite and Islamophobe extraordinaire, had to say:
"Will the West stand up for its customs and mores,
including freedom of speech, or will Muslims
impose their way of life on the West? Ultimately,
there is no compromise: Westerners will either
retain their civilization, including the right to
insult and blaspheme, or not."
It’s quite ironic that he finds it so easy to ignore the fact that eleven European countries (including ones that he lists as standing with Denmark in his article), as well as his own State of Israel, have laws which make public denial of the Holocaust a crime. Based on Pipes' own thinking, such an undermining of free speech should have spelled the end for Western Civilization. Why didn't Pipes whine that this violated the Western "customs and mores" that he claims to value so highly? Without a decent response to these questions (and if he had one, he would have used it), I'll just say that the "H-word" certainly comes to mind.
When the U.S. House passed a constitutional amendment banning flag burning as a form of free speech ([1][2]), why didn't Pipes and his cohorts surmise that this was tantamount to medieval Islamo-Fascist oppression that would cause American freedom to come to an end? Likewise, many U.S. states have laws, which the U.S. Supreme Court upheld as constitutional back in 2003 ([1][2]), prohibiting burning a Christian cross. Why didn't Daniel Pipes and his fellow hypocrites complain that this compromised Americans' right to free speech and that they were now on a slippery slope towards the end of Western Civilization? Like always, the one-eyed Dajjalian approach of hate-mongers becomes apparent whenever the facts get in the way of their agenda.
Actually, the cross burning ban is a bit more of a sticky issue, since opposing it might have aired some of the dirty laundry that the United States of America has in her closet. These are painful truths that many people, excluding most African-Americans, are almost wholly ignorant of. Maybe xenophobes and monoculturalists realized that opposing a ban on a form of racial hatred might end up making more people aware of what used to go on in the American South ([1][2][3][4][5][6]), including George W. Bush's home state of Texas, just a generation or two ago. I had mixed feelings about posting these very disturbing images ([1][2][3][4][5][6]), but felt that it was high time for many people out there to not only get a dose of reality, but to eat a slice of humble pie.
I want these people to look at what allegedly civilized Christians were able to do to fellow human beings when these "others" had become fully dehumanized in their eyes. They turned killing people into a blood sport, much as the Nazis did, but unlike most Nazis, some of these Americans even brought their children along to watch the brutal spectacle, sometimes even wearing their Sunday best. Take a look at their eyes and stare into their smiling faces and reflect on the question: Could this be you?
I think this is a particularly valuable reflection in light of the despicable mutilations of the American mercenaries (which they were, not simply “civilians” as some claim) in Fallujah back in 2004, who were burned and then hung from a bridge—and acts of mutilation are something which the teachings of Islam expressly forbid ([1][2][3]), by the way. This is because it’s become rather obvious that a lot of the talking heads out there seem to think that only Muslims ever do this type of thing. Well the wake up call is here folks, so please reflect on it. Let the fact that such actions, or any hateful and bigoted rhetoric that could lead to them, are never justified, while also realizing that certain people—regardless of their race, creed or color—are capable of such things.
Such blood lust is not a Muslim thing, a Christian thing or a Western Civilization thing, but just a savage thing. However, believing that it's just uncivilized Third World "others" who engage in such dastardly deeds (which essentially amounts to what I call the “my little Johnny would never do such things” syndrome) just makes one an ignorant bigot much like the people standing in some of the shocking photos included above. In reality, these photos are just the tip of the iceberg, since not only was lynching a widespread and socially acceptable practice throughout the American South until the early years of the 20th century (read this and this if you doubt me), but such events as the Holocaust and the ethnic cleansing of Bosnian Muslims need to be taken into consideration as well. So if you really want to see horrifying displays of what some members of modern European civilization have been capable of, search for some pictures of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen and other such camps—not to forget or downplay the much more recent killing fields of Srebrenica. Maybe all this will help some people get off their self-righteous high horses and realize that we face a human problem here, not a Muslim one. It's disturbing to me that so many people are ignorant of, or choose to willfully ignore, their own country's, society's or religion's crimes of the past…but hopefully, after seeing these pictures ([1][2][3][4][5][6]), fewer are ignoring it anymore. Actually, I hope that I’ve turned the convenient little fantasy world which some people live in upside down…
Moving on...later in the his Cartoons and Islamic Imperialism article, with typical intellectual dishonesty, Daniel Pipes goes on to say:
"More specifically, will Westerners accede to a double standard by
which Muslims are free to insult Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism,
and Buddhism, while Muhammad, Islam, and Muslims enjoy immunity from
insults?"
Well who has called for anti-blasphemy laws (for lack of a better term) that would apply only to Muslims? Exactly no one that counts, which excludes anything that some misguided and militant Muslims might have called for—and I haven't heard such things from them either. Really, I'm yet to hear any Muslim call for laws that would only protect Islamic beliefs and practices from public scorn and derision. Once this is realized, it should be obvious that the cartoon which Mr. Pipes includes in his article gets the basic facts wrong, since no one is calling for laws which provide only Islam with special protection against being mocked and insulted. Additionally, and even more deceptively, his article's cartoon implies that Danish caricatures are rather soft and benign, while Muslim ones are outrageously offensive and over the top. Pipes, as he often does, is purely propagandizing here. This would probably be enough to make Julius Streicher proud, but there’s even more to come:
"Muslims routinely publish cartoons far more offensive than
the Danish ones. Are they entitled to dish it out while being
insulated from similar indignities?"
With this, Pipes has stooped so low that he's seemingly become convinced that two wrongs do indeed make a right. Which is not surprising coming from a Zionist, since their logic seems to be that since Jews were ethnically-cleansed in the Holocaust, they have the right to ethnically-cleanse Palestine. Such twisted reasoning seems born of the fact that such propagandists are aware that when you can’t make a case because the facts are against you, which in this case are the actual details about curbs on the freedom of speech currently in place in the Western world as explained above, just throwing out misinformation is usually the recommended course of action. Informed spin-meisters are aware that many television watchers out there are rather uncritical and myopic, thus it's unlikely they'll even notice that what Daniel Pipes is actually arguing for in this case is a juvenile "We're doing it because they do it too!" justification.
Pipes' statement also shows that he, and all those who think like him—and there are plenty of those—view Muslims as some monolithic whole, thus we’re all to blame for the actions of a misguided few. If we can just snap these bigots out of indulging in this one particular logical fallacy that would indeed be a lot of progress—since they seem to fall victim to it an awful lot.
Before continuing, I just want to say that if Muslim governments have any common, if not political, sense (and no, I won’t be naïve and appeal to their sense of decency), they'll crack down on all such hateful cartoons and offensive ant-Semitic material, since not only are such things counterproductive to everyone on both sides, they're Islamically forbidden as well. For everyone's sake, I hope the current crisis brings some positive change in that regard, insha'llah.
On that note, please realize that the existence of anti-Semitic Muslim cartoonists and the actions of violent angry Muslim mobs in various locales doesn't nullify the fact that many of those who are defending free speech and the so-called Western way of life are having hypocritical double-standards—so please stop using the recent violence as a way to divert attention from the real issue. Various pundits are claiming that European Muslims want special treatment under the law, although at least one specific religion is already getting preferential treatment. They claim Muslims only want their religion to be protected from insult, but true and decent Muslims want all religions protected from insult (which is a Qur'anic concept by the way). They say that they have the right to insult and blaspheme whatever they want, but the right to burn a cross is outlawed in the U.S. and seventy-five percent of Americans support a constitutional ban on desecration of their nation's flag. Thus in the final analysis, it's clear that not only do we have de facto censorship (i.e. Danish Paper Rejected Jesus Cartoons) in the Western world, but we have de jure censorship as well. So in spite of all of their self-righteous and paranoid spin, it remains rather clear who is being intellectually dishonest here. I wonder if Mr. Pipes finds it disconcerting that, according to his own logic, three-quarters of the people in the heartland of democracy constitute a threat to Western Civilization?
Looking back on all of this, the alarm bells should have sounded as soon as Pipes tried to accuse Muslims in Europe—who remain a small, and largely poor, disenfranchised minority—of some sort of "Imperialism"—which is not just outrageous, but insidiousness of the highest order. Anyone who knows something about the past two hundred years of Middle Eastern history should be aware of the fact that the cruel, racist and exploitive legacy of European colonialism in Muslim Lands bears some responsibility, but certainly not all, for the situation that Muslims face in much of Europe today. An intellectually honest person would want to address the real issues caused by past Imperialism that has not only already occurred, but is still going on (albeit in a somewhat different form) in both Iraq and Israel today. In lieu of presenting the facts, Daniel Pipes instead opted for spouting off paranoid delusions about some phantasmic "Islamic Imperialism". Indeed, such delusional outbursts, regardless of how hard he tries to present them as rational, should alarm us to the fact that the Daniel Pipes' of the world truly have a lot in common with the likes of Julius Streicher.
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19 Comments:
The Siris blog has a nice posting entitled The Jyllandsposten Controversy, which says:
"...like a number of others in this controversy, fails to remember what 'freedom of press' and 'free speech' actually mean, namely, freedom from government coercion. They are not what is primarily at stake here; what is primarily at stake here is bigotry that casts aspersions with a broad brush."
Just another point which proves that a lot of people out there are missing the point and don't even understand the rights that they're claiming to defend.
Assalam Alaikum
Excellent post. I have heard a variety of defences of the cartoons on news channels ranging from the BBC to CNN.
1. Muslims also publish offensive cartoons. You offered a refutation to this argument. Simply, if Muslims do it then it's also wrong, so two wrongs don't make a right. Moreover, for many of these people any criticism of Israel would be regarded as "anti-semetic." However, even directing ridicule towards a political issue and the personalities involved within it is quite different from insulting and mocking the sacred religious symbols and individuals of a people. Thus, I very much doubt that in the Muslim and Arab media we find cartoons mocking, for instance, Judaism, the Torah, Moses, Paul, the New Testament or any other symbol of religion - which includes Rama and Krishna of Hinduism etc. Therefore, in my view, "anti-semeticism" (aren't the Arabs also semites?) - which falls in the realms of politics, is not the same as mocking someone's religion. Nonetheless, I agree, mocking "the Jews" in general and making caricatures of them is entirely unacceptable. Similarly, burning the Danish flag would also be unacceptable under the Shariah.
2. Some have tried to argue that the cartoons are actually, believe it or not, "pro-Islamic"! That is to say, they were not meant to "insult" Muhammed (P) but to paint Islam and Muhammed (P) in a good light! It is claimed that the cartoons were meant to be included in a book for children on an introduction to Islam!! I heard one guest on CNN making this argument on the the Anderson Cooper 360 programme. Check the blog at cnn.com/ac360. However, I wonder, was it so darn difficult for them to to portray the Prophet (P) in a good light other than by depicting him wearing a turban bomb and the other poses? Do they really think that Muslims and others are so idiot that they would construe such image anything other than what they truly are - insults and mocks?
3. A lot of disinformation is circulating on the news channels. Last night on BBC News 24 they had a well-known political commentator (Sorry I can't remember her name) who basically said something like "It is interesting to note that the Quran contains a lot of anti-Jewish contents and even talks about trees telling Muslims to kill Jews hiding behind them." I was shocked and horrified to hear such false words (that was not a direct quote). But then again, no Muslim guest was invited to speak on behalf of Muslims and so two white Christian people, both of whom did not know much about Islam, kept arguing for atleast an hour how Muslims "think" and what Islam teaches.
What I personally find interesting is the type of guests they generally invite on their programs. Hardly ever do we get genuine Muslims on these news channels who can properly articulate the Muslim viewpoint. Either we get people who cannot speak proper English, or idiots such as Irshad Manji!! - the favourite pet of CNN. Manji roughly quoted various verses of the Quran (including "there shall be no compulsion in religion") only to conclude that such mocking is permitted by the Quran! Of course, she is frequently invited on CNN as if she represents Muslims and speaks on our behalf. A certain Imam Feisal who was invited on the same program was utterly incapable of cornering that pest Manji.
Finally, please take a look at the site answering-islam since they have also offered a defence of the cartoons. They represent extremist Protestant Christians, so it would be good to expose them. Let's see if they also so cheerfully defend the right of an artist to put dung on the statue of Mary (P) as an "artistic expression"
wassalam
Here are some recently found hot blog postings that relate to this topic:
SunniSister has some nice thoughts to be found in Only Mozzies and How Often?, and she points us to Akram’s Razor Again as well.
A hat tip to Sidi Faraz of Seeker's Digest for link to veteran Middle East correspondent Robert Fisk's two cents worth on the cartoons, which is entitled Don't be fooled, this isn't an issue of Islam versus secularism.
Finally, Yusuf Smith informs us that the Jerk who dressed up as a suicide-bomber the other day in London has been sent back to jail...too bad they don't put him under the jail.
Enjoy...
Unfortunately, many of the young Muslims we see in the streets who are ready for a fight and waving threatening banners are like that -drug addicts and other low character people who probably never pray in their lives and are out for a "good time".
As usual a meticulously researched piece. I've always had a huge problem Daniel Pipes and his analysis of Islam and Muslims especially given the fact that he has so much support within the Bush administration. More posts like yours will expose Pipes for the intellectual fraud that he is.
Keep up the good work!
W/salaam
Maq
You realize of course, that flag burning is still protected speech in the United States. The House may have passed the bill calling for an amendment, but it died in the Senate, and would never have been ratified by 2/3 of the states. Get it right.
Dozens of whacky amendments get passed but never go anywhere.
Here are this morning's new findings:
Svend White at Akram's Razor has an excellent post discussing why so many people out there just don't get it. A key excerpt is:
"When you're so terminally uninformed and incapable of considering Muslim perspectives when pontificating on the Muslim world, you're almost guaranteed to misunderstand the significance of everything you see. Like a frustrated shrink that detects eroticism in everything he encounters, you will misinterpret even the most mundane of events or statements by Muslims as dripping with exoticism and menace."
An excellent diagnosis, although we're still left with a poor prognosis.
A posting right under this one had a link to On Cartoons, Personal Agendas and Denmark, which is the latest posting on the (non-Muslim) Danish blog Bookish.dk. Since she's close to the source of the action, not only is the author able to provide some background information on the controversy that you'd probably not hear elsewhere, but she makes some insightful comments as well.
Finally, BeliefNet has a worthwhile article entitled Cartoongate and the Long Road to Civilization, by Mark LeVine, which is well worth a read since it discusses a lot of the misinformation and misconceptions that seem to be widespread.
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I'm just tired. Let's get on with life. Now we have a bunch of people who want to kill? a cartoonist? I see a sign being held up by a protester that says "Massacre those who insult Islam?" Is that what God says? We are inundated with this kind of stuff daily. If we are not exposed to Muslims in our everyday lives, how are we to know outside of this kind of reporting - what is the truth?
People here do not have the time or the inclination to truly explore Islam and the Muslim community. We see this crap on TV news and it all has to do with how much Muslims hate us and everything about us.
While I acknowledge that there have been many times in history that mankind has been cruel (in every religious culture) - that does not reduce the effect that we see today. Unfortunately - today, news travels at light speed and we see it all now.
I work with a true American Muslim man in my community. He is a wonderful person and has very high moral values. I assume this is true for most American Muslims. I like to assume that it is true of most Americans.
So why all the hate? Apparently - aside from those who live in free nations, many Muslims in the world have not experienced true freedom and they may not be ready for it. It requires a great deal of individual responsibility to be a free nation.
What really gets my goat is that people - HUMAN BEINGS just like us - have died over what - a cartoon? WHY???????
Let's get over it and move on!
Mere Islam said:
"Such blood lust is not a Muslim thing, a Christian thing or a Western civilization thing, but just a savage thing."
I whole heartedly agree. And you are quite correct in comparing Lynchings in the South to the murderous rampage of hysterical Muslims.
Here's another relevant article that Sidi Musa Furber brought to my attention:
The Misplaced Defense of Free Speech
by Aseem Shrivastava
The article is rather long, so here's a key point to ponder: "Is it so hard to make sense of the upset caused by the cartoons to so many Muslims across the world? If so, Palestinian writer Remi Kanazi may be of help: 'Picture this: a cartoon of Jesus, with his pants down, smiling, raping a little boy. The caption above it reads "Got Catholicism"?' Or how about a picture of a rabbi with blood dripping from his mouth after bludgeoning a small Palestinian boy with a knife shaped like the Star of David - the caption reads, 'The devil's chosen ones.'" It's quite true that such things would never be published in a mainstream newspaper...
To: Queer Conservative,
Thanks for the comments, although I think you missed the mark on this one.
In regard to "Get it right", well I didn't say anything that was incorrect, but my Google research simply didn't turn up any info on the Senate shooting down this bill (which I suspected might have been the case anyway). Indeed, saying that "...the U.S. House passed a constitutional amendment banning flag burning as a form of free speech" remains very much a fact (since the House did pass it, regardless of what Senate did later) and shows that there is a high degree of popular support for such selective restrictions on free speech.
To restate: the fact that the bill failed to pass the Senate and didn't become law doesn't change the fact that significant support for restricting some forms of free speech are prevalent in America. This is backed up by the other fact that I presented on this point, which is that "seventy-five percent of Americans support a constitutional ban on desecration of their nation's flag".
In summary, these facts are mutually supportive and thus demonstrate that the point that I was trying to make still stands as completely valid.
A few thoughts:
You seem to base much of your comparison of American and Islamic tolerance for "free speech" on the fact that America would evidently like to ban the burning of the stars and stripes. Is there not significant difference in perspective and effect between this sort of "free speech," and, say, drawing a picture of a flag burning? I appreciate that the Muslim community sees a double standard in the Western worship of the free speech grail, but as my mother always told me, "actions speak louder than words," and perhaps it makes some sense to be more outraged over a physical manifestation of intolerance (i.e. flag burning) than merely a visible representation of the same.
I also wonder if it really serves to strengthen your argument to point out that the United States has a violent and intolerant history toward certain subsects of society. Isn't this comparison the sort of "two wrongs" analysis that you (and I) find distasteful about Daniel Pipes' pontificating? The fact that American society experienced such intolerance and overcame such (inherent?) propensities might support the position that Americans are those best positioned to help the radical elements of the Muslim world move away from violent representations of their obviously strongly held beliefs and typecasts of Westerners(?) Every society is guilty of hypocrisy to the extent that they oppose the mistakes and misjudgments of their forefathers and ancestors, right?
I do appreciate your perspective, and I hope to read more of your thoughts in the future.
To: Queer Conservative
Thanks for the feedback. However, Malkin's thoughts completely miss the point. If simply having a fact-based discussion on "unpleasant matters" was all that she was doing, well that would be one thing. However, spreading twisted and bigoted misinformation that breeds hatred and ill-will against a large religious community is quite another (and what the Nuremburg court concluded about Julius Streicher seems to be relevant here).
Likewise, when a person states things that are incorrect or fans the flames of hatred just to put forward their agenda, they should apologize. Decent people apologize when they've done someone wrong, which is why the likes of Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter and Daniel Pipes no longer fit in the category of decent people. In Malkin's case, I think she says the types of things that you've included above just to encourage the Ann Coulter wannabe-tough girl persona that she seemingly so desperately wants.
While we're on the subject of Ann Coulter, I took her to task awhile back, so please read Why does Ann Coulter think that Jesus Christ smelled bad? if you want to see some glaring examples of how sloppy her thinking is.
While I'm no fan of bleeding-heart liberals either, the self-righteous and unapologetic attitude that many on the Right put forward is quite disgusting (especially in light of the fact that many of them claim to be devout Christians). Some people (like Malkin) seem to want to have one set of standards for themselves, but quite another set for their opponents. The fact that she refuses to apologize for her antics but wants Muslims (who are a single-minded monolithic whole in her seemingly paranoid mind) to apologize for criminal acts that not only contradict explicit teachings of their religion, but that 99.999% of them have nothing to do with anyway, is a clear demonstration of this. And she has the gall to accuse liberals of being emotion-driven and irrational...
In addition to this, the glaring fact remains that Michelle Malkin et al couldn't get away with using the type of strong rhetoric and sloppy overgeneralizations that they reserve for Muslims in regards to African-Americans, Jews or other such minorities. Sure, they might be able to maintain a voice out there somewhere, but it they'd be ostracized from the mainstream media.
I don't dispute that there are serious problems in the Muslim World today, but why not seek to understand the reasons for these problems? Isn't that how societal problems are resolved in America? If George W. Bush's misguided attempts to fix the Middle East were sincere (and they're really just a smoke screen), you'd think there would be some serious attempts to actually understand the region. However, it seems that most all of his advisors and supporters see the world through a set of very slanted lenses, thus most of their policies only exacerbate the problems instead of help solve them. This isn't helped by the fact that many pro-Republican pundits think that hateful rhetoric and mindless bashing have something to contribute to all this.
One of the most asinine things I've noticed is that they seemingly want people to learn about Islam and the Middle East, a religion and a region that they unapologetically loathe, by listening to them. Gee, I wonder if they'd support this same methodology for those wanting to learn about the conservative movement and the Republican party (i.e. they'd be encouraged to only read and listen to the unqualified views of conservative-hating Democrats)? Now there's another entry for the "double-standards" column, if not the "sloppy thinking" one as well.
Based on years of personal, thus rather unscientific, observation, it seems to me that far too many people out there are just stooges of the media. They don't have a clue about what authentic Islam really stands for, what's really going on in the Muslim World or what has gone on there in the past. I know that it's wishful thinking, but people need to stop thinking that watching selective (and often inflammatory) news stories from less than unbiased sources equates to getting an education. Instead, I really wish that they'd crack a book once in awhile and learn to think on their own. My most recent Book-of-the-Month selection has some intelligent things to say about this.
Which again brings me to your comments, which seem to indicate that you've bought into some of these media distortions and don't even recognize your own rather convenient double-standards. That violence in the Muslim World is "incomparable" and "systemic" is largely pure rubbish. Sure, we have militant radicals who periodically conduct terrorist attacks, semi-regular suicide bombings in Iraq and Palestine, some rioting the past few weeks and other such things (many of which are situations where Muslims are simply trying to defend themselves). But what makes this "incomparable" to Israeli violence against the Palestinians (far more of whom are killed each year than Israelis), the ongoing genocide in Chechnya by the Russians, and the often reckless way that the U.S. military fights in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Indeed, one way to decrease the violence in the Muslim World would be to get the invading U.S. military out of Iraq, the Israelis out of Palestine, the Russians out the Chechnya, the Indians out of Kashmir and a whole slough of Western supported autocratic regimes out of a whole host of Muslim countries. That so many people are blind to this reality continues to amaze me.
Also, if we just look a little further back in the past, it seems that you've also rather conveniently overlooked the mass rapes and executions that Serbs carried out in Bosnia, the genocide in Rwanda (which was the most Christianized country in Africa, by the way) and the massacre of about 1,800 Palestinian civilians by Lebanese Christians back in 1983 (with the tacit approval of Ariel Sharon). I could add dropping atomic bombs and the carpet bombing of civilians in World War Two to the list, but I think that's enough for now. Personally, the only violence that I've reflected on lately that I'd dare to call "incomparable" are the racist lynchings, complete with children in the audience, which used to took place regularly in the American South. To compare this to what angry people did in Fallujah after losing homes and loved ones when excessive force was employed by an army conducting an illegal invasion is really quite "incomparable" (although still not justified).
However, in order to reach an understanding I'd be willing to admit, after putting all of the above evidence aside, that the Muslim World is no doubt experiencing a severe trauma at this point in its history. This is something that all civilizations experience at some point, but we just happen to live in a time when the Muslim World, partly due to the harsh experience of European colonialism that ended quite recently, is going through such a painful transition. The reason that I'd be willing to admit this, other than the fact that it's obviously true, is that the main thing that I want people to recognize is that none of this, as such, has anything to do with the religion of Islam. It should come as no surprise that when a civilization is in crisis, members of that civilization tap into their religion in both right and wrong ways in order to weather the storm. That this human phenomenon has now manifested itself in Muslims no more detracts from the actual teachings of Islam than the horrible actions of masses of Christians during the Crusades and Europe's bloody Wars of Religion undermine the true teachings of Jesus Christ—peace be upon him. As I've said before, if religions were proven false due to the bad actions of their followers, then Christianity would have been proven false long before Islam came on the scene.
As far as the violence in the Muslim World being "systematic", well the recent riots were largely emotional reactions to a frustrating legacy of hatred and double-standards. One should also reflect on what percentage of Muslims have actually participated in these misguided events. I'd surmise that worldwide it's probably only in the tens of thousands, so with between 1.2 and 1.5 billions Muslims in the world (depending on who you ask), what percentage are we talking about here?—and thus falls your "wide swaths of Islamic culture" assertion. So even if we do have militant extremist wackos in the midst of our once proud Ummah (and indeed we do!) who commit acts of terrorism in a "systematic" way...what the heck does that have to do with the moderate majority of mainstream Muslims? Well the answer is NOTHING, but the problem is that even seemingly intelligent intellectuals have had their heads so filled up with junk when it comes to Islam and the Middle East that many of them have seemingly lost the ability to think clearly. The often heard generalizations that imply, at a minimum, that monolithic "Islam" is to blame, or that Muslims should at least apologize whenever criminal acts are carried out by a misguided Muslim sect, are a product of this state of mind. The current cartoon crisis only continues to manifest more and more examples in the on-going stream of sloppy thinking that has been coming from a far too large a sector of the Western intelligentsia for far too long.
Anyway, to get back to the original point, we're not calling for conservative pundits and others to be teary-eyed and spineless wimps, but it would be nice if they'd get their facts straight, stop trying to encourage stereotypes (and you're denying reality if you don't concur that these abound and that Malkin, Coulter, Hannity et al lend credence to them) and refrain from using such logical fallacies as overgeneralization and "two wrongs makes a right" in order to justify their views. In short, stop having double-standards, spewing misinformation and fomenting hate.
Which leads me to your final statement about not wanting to "kow-tow to overly sensitive sensibilities"—well who defines this? Even though religious sensibilities may seem foolish to people who don't hold the same views, they certainly shouldn't just be dismissed as "overly sensitive", since when it comes to the Holocaust, racist remarks and some other things, the "overly sensitive" defense isn't employed.
Additionally, almost all people will eventually be offended by something, it's just a matter of how high you'll have to raise (or lower) the bar before they ask for protection under the law. There are laws against obscenity, a definition for which is just as elastic has a definition of "sensibilities" is likely to be, currently on the books just about everywhere in the world, including the United States. So it's not a matter of having no standards (a.k.a. absolute free speech) versus standards (a.k.a. limited free speech), since even in the United States the latter situation is what we're already in-whether some people realize it or not. I think this was articulated very well in a recent commentary in The Sunday Times (London): "Nobody has an absolute right to freedom. Civilisation is the story of humans sacrificing freedom so as to live together in harmony. We do not need Hobbes to tell us that absolute freedom is for newborn savages. All else is compromise...Every day newspapers decide on the balance of boldness, offence, taste, discretion and recklessness. They must decide who is to be allowed a voice and who not. They are curbed by libel laws, common decency and their own sense of what is acceptable to readers. Speech is free only on a mountain top; all else is editing." Touché!
And finally, it's rather ironic that so many on the Right are suddenly so worried that their freedoms might be infringed upon (and stating such concerns is just a façade, since the current crisis has its roots in strong xenophobia among some sectors of the Danish populace and their desire to manufacture a crisis in order to defame Muslims), but at the same time they just kow-tow to the efforts of the Bush administration to trample the U.S. Constitution. They seemingly haven't read what Benjamin Franklin wrote more than two centuries ago: "Those who would give up essential liberty in the pursuit of a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security". Personally, I don't consider hateful and blasphemous rhetoric to be "essential to liberty", and I'd guess that it was probably not allowed in Ben Franklin's day (at least in regards to Christianity). The government stepping in to put limits on the free exchange of ideas is one thing (and we already have some limits on speech, so this is not a slippery slope), but pointless hatemongering that just breeds ill-will is quite another. In addition to Ben Franklin's aphorism, I think Mark Twain's maxim that "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it" is worth taking to heart, since we have far too many blind-following sheep out there.
I might not have the time to maintain this level of dialogue in the coming days, but I'm enjoying it so far...
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Speaking of double standards in religion, please remember this report
The Muslims have completed their destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas. Now only an empty giant alcove remains where these 100+ foot tall statues from 1600 years ago stood. The Muslim leadership declared all statues idolatrous in February and ordered the destruction of the giant Buddhas along with all sorts of other smaller artifacts from the distant past. Kabul’s museums have been culturally “cleansed” of the offending relics.
Should the governement of Kabul and of other Muslim countries first apologize to the Buddhists around the world for this desacration, before requesting apologies for the disrespect against the prophet?
The level of hypocrisy, hatred and sheer lies being put out by the EuroNazis and their supporters is striking. These people break their own incitement laws when it comes to Muslims.
Most of these right wing primates dont even know the facts behind the controversy yet will support the EuroNazis simply to villify the Muslims. With all the revelations about Flemming Rose and his neoconservative begfellows, in addition to his refusal to lampoon Christ(a.s.)...makes you wonder.
Decrying about the Muslim reaction...the hypocritical bastards should have thought about that before starting a fire and complaining about being trampled in the ensuing stampede.
Boycott the hate mongering euroscum.
Great post yet again... I would also like to add that us Muslims who are in the "West" heard about everything on the news and in the press just like everyone else did, so why everyone keeps asking us to explain the actions of others, in another sovreign state, is beyond me.
We're talking about cartoons, right?
I didn't find the images of the rapists being hung in the least bit disturbing. Do you have the historical information so we might know what the other criminals were being hung for?
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